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Make proposed monochromatic IDE changes optional in VS11 by Daniel Smith


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Type: Bug
ID: 726448
Opened: 2/23/2012 3:49:03 PM
Access Restriction: Public
Moderator Decision: Sent to Engineering Team for consideration
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Description

With regard to the proposed monochromatic IDE changes in Visual Studio 11 detailed in the following blog post:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2012/02/23/introducing-the-new-developer-experience.aspx

Please take note of the the volume and strength of the negative comments on these highly controversial changes. Clearly, the number of users against this are too large to ignore.

Please take time to reflect on the comments, and consider the alternatives, such as making these contentious changes optional.

Here's just some reasons why the changes are provoking such a charged response:

* Users develop a visual memory, and changing the icons means re-learning them.
* Far from distracting users, colour helps quickly identify icons.
* Grey is drab and depressing.
* The monochrome icons are difficult to distinguish.
* Third party add-ins with colour icons will look completely out of place.
* Nobody asked for these changes to be made and no community feedback was requested or demoed before these changes were undertaken.
* Many people are exasperated that time has been wasted on these unwanted changes when there are so many other areas (as voted on here on Connect and on UserVoice) that need to be addressed.
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Posted by Emil2000 on 1/14/2013 at 1:41 AM
This is the main reason why I am not switching to VS2012. I am waiting for this problem to get resolved.

I should add that I have always been an early adopter in the past, but this version is just ridiculous.
Posted by Осака on 9/7/2012 at 9:04 AM
Colored themes (2010-like "Blue") is much less pain for eyes (but you have forgotten to fix scrollbars, they almost not visible).
Now, just remains restore normal icons, and there will be able to work with 2012.
Posted by Chris128 on 7/26/2012 at 3:11 PM
I can honestly say I will not buy this version of VS if it stays looking like this, and plenty of other people will be the same. So do yourself a favour and change it back to a normal, usable, colourful UI that people can use. There is ABSOLUTELY NO BENEFIT to these UI changes, only negatives... and the fact you don't even offer the option of using a normal UI is just madness.
Posted by radioman-lt on 7/22/2012 at 7:54 AM
..fuuck this nonsense, damn daltonics has take over the microsoft coders ;D HD monitor, true colors, and this shiiitles look, what a shame...
Posted by JGLA on 6/29/2012 at 12:40 AM
A quote from a recent windows 8 article by 'Jensen Harris' of Microsoft:

"To think that your PC would remain the single computing device you do not touch seems illogical. It is reminiscent of historic debates over the use of color back when PC displays were generally monochromatic; despite color being everywhere around us, many people believed color would be a distraction to work and should be reserved for play. (The Office team actually had a significant debate about the use of color icons in the first version that introduced toolbars.)"

So why have we jumped back in time?
Posted by Осака on 6/2/2012 at 5:55 AM
Blue header on focused window - VERY DISTRACTIVE, too bright, and indistinguishable from color of selected lines in listviews. It must be DIFFERENT colors (look any other MDI applications), and window header must be NOT distractive.
Flashing status bar, from blue to acid-orange, - VERY ANNOYING AND DISTRACTING. Are someone jeers? Need option to switch it off.
Posted by Microsoft on 5/22/2012 at 2:46 PM
Thank you for your feedback. We continue to evolve these and your feedback is helpful in that effort.
Posted by Осака on 5/10/2012 at 9:53 AM
New color icons are better, but why they look like toys for little children? Visual Studio is not a game for kindergarten kids, this is tool for adult engineers. Need _normal_ icons.
Posted by Daniel Stolt on 4/14/2012 at 2:56 AM
While the OP makes same really good points and expresses them very eloquently, I would argue that what most people (myself included) have issues with are the monochromatic *icons* and not necessarily the gray look of the other UI elements like bars, menus etc.

Personally, I feel that if we were only given a new set of icons with just a little more color definition or at least greater use of gradients (like the icons used in Adobe Photoshop) then the general "cleanness" of the new IDE would actually be a welcome improvement over previous releases. I don't have any issues with the removed clutter or the gray background areas, but I do loathe the monochrome icons and the identification difficulty they bring.

Oh, and of couse the "::::: TOOL WINDOW :::::::::::::" notation - everyone hates that... :)
Posted by Осака on 4/4/2012 at 12:49 PM
:::::::: INTELLISENSE DROPDOWN LIST AND SOLUTION EXPLORER ARE _CONTENT_ !!! :::::::::
:::::::: THEY MUST NOT BE GRAY ::::::::
Posted by Осака on 3/15/2012 at 10:21 PM
Please bring back icons in tab headers (in tool windows). It's difficult to distinguish tabs, when several headers look like
"TOOLBOX SOLUTION EXPLORER TEAM EXPLORER" with no separators at all.
Posted by SSchaem on 3/15/2012 at 4:58 PM
Please offer the VS2010 icon set as a theme option.

Posted by GerardF on 3/15/2012 at 12:39 AM
I totally agree. I've been using VS since VC++ 1.52, this is the worst looking UI ever! Very disapointing.
Posted by Lachlan01 on 3/14/2012 at 3:12 PM
The horrible look aside, I think OP is correct in that the most irritating part of all this is that GUI "tinkering" was prioritised over the hundreds of other far more important bugs/features on Connect. It feels like a slap in the face.

And then MS had the gall to try and sell it as an improvement. Do you really think that developers, as a community, are the type of brainless, trend following, Apple iCrap loving, Facebook obsessed netizens that would just accept/embrace this???

Posted by Puterdo Borato on 3/11/2012 at 12:57 PM
Monochromatic interface looks like a joke. It took me twice longer to grasp what is where.
Colors really help.
Just keep colors by default so no questions needed on installation.
Who wants black&white will just change for themselves.

Thanks!
Posted by ABC07 on 3/7/2012 at 12:17 AM
I think the best approach for every new UI change is:

1) Keep available the old style;
2) After installation, display a dialog with question whether the user wants the known (old) UI or the new one.
Posted by MS-Moderator10 [Feedback Moderator] on 2/23/2012 at 11:01 PM
Thank you for submitting feedback on Visual Studio 2010 and .NET Framework. Your issue has been routed to the appropriate VS development team for investigation. We will contact you if we require any additional information.
Posted by MS-Moderator01 on 2/23/2012 at 4:46 PM
Thank you for your feedback, we are currently reviewing the issue you have submitted. If this issue is urgent, please contact support directly(http://support.microsoft.com)
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Posted by Vitaly on 1/4/2013 at 11:09 AM
Visual Studio Icon Patcher

http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a36021f0-770a-4258-854e-724e9d12b8a6?SRC=Home
Posted by ITMAGE on 9/13/2012 at 2:01 PM
The below helps but we still have a way to go, especially regarding the ICONS. We really need a complete VS2010 theme which includes the original icons, colors, borders, spacing, scroll bars, title menu and respect for the Windows selected theme such as Aero.

Theme Editor: http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/366ad100-0003-4c9a-81a8-337d4e7ace05

Proper Case the File Menu: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/zainnab/archive/2012/06/14/turn-off-the-uppercase-menu-in-visual-studio-2012.aspx
Posted by radioman-lt on 7/22/2012 at 7:57 AM
http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/ , but's its grey too ;D
Posted by Осака on 3/11/2012 at 2:05 PM
>Use NetBeans, Eclipse, IDEA or GEL
What technology (supported in these IDEs) is best for migrate from WPF?
Posted by Puterdo Borato on 3/11/2012 at 12:59 PM
Use NetBeans, Eclipse, IDEA or GEL ;)